British Loner Heroes (Anne Stuart)

posted by Anne Stuart on Monday, May 19, 2008 . Post a comment for a chance to win free books!


Yup, you heard me right. We've been discussing whether British heroes are actually loners, or whether that's a mistaken American fantasy and that British men, historically, have always been based in community. Jo Beverley and I argue about absolutely everything (I adore her and she's used to me ) and she posits that the British are community-minded, and that loner heroes are unbelievable (British ones, that is).

So we've been arguing back and forth (we argue so much we don't even agree what we're arguing about, all in the friendliest manner). She thinks the British attitude toward a loner is that he's a weirdo.

So I've
been obsessed with coming up with British heroes, written by English authors, who are loners. So far I've got James Mason in his early British roles (the Seventh Veil in particular), Heathcliff, Rochester, Colin's father in A SECRET GARDEN, Sara Crewe's father's friend in A LITTLE PRINCESS). There are also the Georgette Heyer heroes who, while surrounded by people, are very alone (Vidal in Devil's Cub, his father (who has one good friend), most of the drawling rakes).

Other people have come up with James Bond (of course!) and the Hugh Grant hero in About a Boy. And Clive Owen seems perfect to play the ultimate isolated British loner -- with dark brooding thoughts and incredible sex appeal. Think of other British actors: Alan Rickman, Daniel Day-Lewis, Ralph Fiennes. Do they strike you as the kind to sit around the pub with their mates? (In fact, they probably do, but their public persona clashes with the notion).


So give me some more ammo, people. Let me say "Jo, you ignorant slut ..." so she can reply "Krissie, you ignorant slut ..." and we can continue our cheerful arguments. Give me so
me more British loner heroes (created by the British).

Oh, and while you're at it, go buy Jo's fabulous new book. Even if she don't know squat about English heroes (did I really say that?) she sure can write a great one.

7 Comments :

Blogger Darla said...

I'm staying out of that discussion, especially since I won't be of any help! lol

Now the new book...that I CAN do!

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hm, Dary in PRIDE & PREJUDICE strikes me as the loner-type. While he interacted with his peers on some level, he always seemed brooding and withdrawn. *shrug*

Kate

11:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, that's supposed to be Darcy from PRIDE AND PREJUDICE.

Kate

11:32 AM  
Blogger Jo B said...

Well, when summoned, I have to appear.*G*

Darcy. He seems reserved to Elizabeth -- downright arrogant, in fact, but is he in his own milieu? It's hard to say, but he's clearly on easy terms with Bingley. It'd be guesswork to say how he lives in London, but I reckon some clubs and regular attendance at the sort of social gatherings he feels worthy of his notice. :)

I like to put historical characters in modern situations for reference -- for we are the elite of the modern world. I you or I were put down in.... a small town in Kenya. (We'll assume it's stable, as it generally is.)

You're persuaded to attend some local jollity. You might be the sort to plunge right in and party, but if you felt a bit awkward because you don't like being a fish out of water, and they are looking at you funny. And yes, perhaps you do feel a bit that they're not your sort of people and you'd rather not get involved.

But back home, are you a loner? Probably not. See? The two things have nothing to do with one another.

Someone elsewhere mentioned Mr. Rochester. I dislike the Brontes -- sorry. It's those brooding men*G* -- but wasn't he hidden away because of his wife? Wasn't he gregarious when he met her?

Of course the totally twisted ending leaves him scarred and blind and trapped with Jane, poor man. Provocative? Who, me?

One last point. Krissie -- who is wrong but delightful anyway :) -- has slightly misrepresented me. I was talking about Englishmen and clubs. My point was that they like clubs and create them, whether it be a working man's club or White's, a traveler's club or a true "local."

These sorts of clubs allow a man to get together with people with whom he shares something without the intimacy of going to one another's homes, or arranging to go together to some event.

So when I say "loner" I mean no close friends, no clubs. Someone who avoids other humans as much as possible.

Jo :)

2:45 PM  
Blogger Anne Stuart said...

Jo, you delightful ignorant slut -- a loner is someone who is essentially, emotionally alone, even though he's surrounded by people. As usual, it's semantics. You think anyone who attends social functions when called upon to do so and belongs to a club (where he's probably hidden behind a potted palm and served the freshly ironed newspaper and a glass of sherry) and no one even notices he's been dead for three days (think Peter Wimsey).

4:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just began reading Careless in Red, Elizabeth George's new novel. Her hero, Lynley, an Earl, is also a loner.

Mary

6:05 PM  
Blogger Maggie Shayne said...

What do I know? My favorite British hero was Spike, who wasn't even British. And he was a loner, who joined the Scooby Gang and then he wasn't a loner. Though he always was, sort of.

So like I said, what do I know?

I do enjoy watching my two pals slug it out though. You guys should hold a mud-wrestling event to settle it in the end.

Maggie

6:44 AM  

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